Monday, May 15, 2006

3D Desktop

3D desktop is a great idea I came across today. I was happy to find that many works are going on it. I found few interesting screenshots of some such works. The most impressive work on it seemed to me Project Looking Glass of Sun Microsystems. It is an open platform to explore innovative 3D user interface. Here is a cool screenshot below:

Though the screenshot is beautiful, I am not much excited about this project. I have experienced sluggish behavior of Java desktop of Solaris 10. Due to this experience, I don't think this desktop environment will be as much responsive as it should be.

There are some programs in Linux which gives 3D effect to desktop using OpenGL e.g. XGL. But I did not find them impressive. They have a long way to go.

In Windows world, Windows Vista and Windows Presentation Foundation API promise to give a new look and feel of the desktop. But why should we wait so long? There is already a great implementation SphereXP. It displays icons and windows inside a sphere instead of a flat desktop hence providing 3D environment. Here is a screenshot of it:


So, 3D desktop is not far away. Though our display devices are going to be 2D for quite a long time, our desktop is going to be 3D for sure. I am certain that it will bring some fantastic and rich experience to us.

Monday, May 08, 2006

The Potential and Challenges of Information Technology for the Future of Bangladesh - Sajeeb Wazed Joy

Here is an excellent article on Bangladesh IT by Sajeeb Wazed Joy. It is nice to see that unlike other illiterate supreme leaders of Bangladesh, who refuses to connect to information superhighway for free in fear of national secret being leaked (how unfortunate we are!!!), he at least understands the problems and solutions of BD IT. I am here assuming that he himself wrote the article. It will be nice if he actually keeps his promises in future.

<Article>

Thursday • May 04, 2006
 
 
 
 
The Potential and Challenges of Information Technology for the Future of Bangladesh
SAJEEB WAZED JOY

As you may know, the Global Information Technology Report 2005-2006, sponsored by the World Economic Forum has been released. According to the report, Bangladesh is marginally improved but going backwards in terms of its ICT development. The report uses the Networked Readiness Index (NRI), covering a total of 115 economies during the year 2005, to measure the degree of preparation of a nation or community to participate in and benefit from ICT developments. The NRI is composed of three component indexes which assess:

 1. The environment for ICT offered by a given country or community,

2. The readiness of the community's key stakeholders - individuals, business and governments and

3. The usage of ICT among these stakeholders.

During the year 2004, Bangladesh's NRI score was -1.30, amongst the bottom four Least Developed Countries (LDCs) with rank 100th. In 2005 the score is -1.11, amongst the bottom six LDCs with rank going downward to 110th out of 115.

India now has forty four percent of the global outsourcing market. This is projected to grow to fifty one percent by the year 2008. However, along with this growth comes a problem. Countries such as India are seeing a rise in their cost of labor which gives Bangladesh a second chance at the train we missed the first time. To compete globally Bangladesh must develop its ICT industry. We already have the human resource. What we must have urgently is sufficient bandwidth and a stable supply of power.

During the Awami League's tenure we added over fifteen hundred megawatts of power production capacity. We had projected and planned for a growth of fifteen hundred megawatts of additional power production capacity in the next five years. Since this government has taken over they have added a net of zero megawatts of power production. I'm sure you are all feeling the effects of this. This does not just affect the ICT industry, but every facet of business and development. One simply cannot develop a nation with a shortage of electricity.

The Awami League government also took the first practical steps towards ICT development in Bangladesh. To encourage investment in the software industry we allocated one hundred crore taka in our 2000-2001 budget. We eliminated all import duties on computer hardware, software and peripherals. A desktop computer used to cost three lakh taka. We brought that price down to forty thousand taka. Where there were only ten to twelve thousand computers in use nationwide, now more than fifteen thousand are purchased every month. This has directly benefited all of you. The current government has since reinstated some of those taxes that we had eliminated.

Before our tenure, no government office had a computer. Even our embassy in Washington used a typewriter for all letters to the US Government! We began the process of computerization of all government offices.

During its first term the BNP government was presented with the option of connecting the country to a submarine fiber optic cable at no cost. Unbelievably, they refused this offer. The Awami League government then initiated the current submarine fiber optic cable project. By this time it was no longer an option to connect for free. Still, the project was created but elections were upon us before we could implement it. Then the BNP government came back to power. The project was redesigned. Originally, the plan was to build a cable from Bangladesh all the way to Singapore. This was done because there was no consortium cable under construction at that time through the Bay of Bengal to which we could connect. The project was delayed after the change in government and when it was finally reinitiated, a new consortium cable was under construction. The government chose to connect to this as the cost is shared among the consortium partners. However, the cost of the submarine cable project was subsequently inflated so that now the cable that has been built has cost the same as the originally planned cable to Singapore. The original planned site of the landing station was at Shitakunda in Chittagong but it was moved to Cox's Bazaar. This was done as there was no network link between Chittagong and Cox's Bazaar and so government cronies could make a huge profit building this network link and large kickbacks were paid to Hawa Bhaban.

Under the BNP, corruption has pervaded every sector of the government. The ICT sector has not been spared. Eighteen crore taka of research and development funds have simply disappeared and hundreds of crore taka have been misspent by the ICT Ministry.

The question now is, what do we do going forward? This brief does not purport to be a policy paper for the Awami League, but I would like to present you with some of my ideas. The main purpose of this seminar is to give me an opportunity to meet with all of you who represent the ICT industry in this country and take back some of your ideas and concerns. All of this will then be incorporated into Awami League's future policies.

With regards to power production, the Awami League has an established track record of developing the nation's power infrastructure. We initiated the privatization of power production which resulted in greater efficiency, reduced corruption and rapid growth. These policies will continue and we will build the necessary power production capacity to meet the demands of the entire nation now and into the future.

I also propose to develop e-governance initiatives. Putting government information online, such as budgets and expenditure will bring about transparency and accountability. Creating a nationwide database and network for the police will increase the efficiency of the law enforcement agencies, improve law and order, prevent instances of police abuse and help us fight terrorism. Online citizen processes such as tax filings, land registration, tender and procurement and public grievances along with online payment schemes for all of these will eliminate the scope for bribery and corruption. My goal is that eventually, all citizen transactions with the government can be completed online without you having to wait in line outside multiple government offices for days and bribing everyone from the peon to the secretary to do something as mundane as filing your taxes.

Then we have the issue of bandwidth. It is not enough just to build a submarine fiber optic cable. Bandwidth must reach the entrepreneurs. This requires a massive distribution network within the country. Still, just a network is not enough either. There must be sound policies put in place to regulate the distribution of the bandwidth. The current submarine cable provides Bangladesh with a bandwidth of ten gigabits per second while the current BTTB network can transmit a maximum of two megabits per second. That is barely one millionth of the capacity of the cable. Current BTTB plans do not call for the utilization of the full bandwidth for another four years! Also, the current policies call for the submarine cable to carry only voice traffic for the foreseeable future. That means that most of your businesses will not see any benefit from this cable. Lastly, the current regulatory framework calls for completely non-transparent control over the distribution of the bandwidth. What that means is that kickbacks to Hawa Bhaban will make up the largest portion of the bandwidth pricing. Bandwidth prices will follow the same trend as the price of all essentials in this country have during this government's term and you will pay double of what the actual cost is.

What we need is to build national data backbones and implement a balanced bandwidth distribution policy. What I would like to propose is to completely revamp the existing telecommunications regulatory commission, the BTTRC, making it more independent and transparent. Along with that, I propose allowing private telecommunications companies to build the backbones. From there the distribution network and the last mile solution can be spread out competitively among telecommunications companies and local ISPs. This would free the government of the cost of building the network and allow each locality to develop the solutions most appropriate for it based on the terrain and existing infrastructure.

In the software sector, entrepreneurs must pay more attention to developing local expertise rather than just trying to re-sell foreign software. We should not become just sales offices for foreign IT shops. On the export side one of the areas that appear to need some help is our ability for project management through the whole project. We need to improve our educational institutions and IT curricula to develop this expertise. We also need to initiate computer usage and training earlier, in our schools rather than in colleges.

We also need to think about technology that can change the lives of the common people. Whether that's a new way for the farmer to pump water or alternative fuel for our cars, we need to think of technology not just in terms of telecommunications or software but as a tool to improve our daily lives. This will increase efficiency in every aspect of our lives. I believe that maximum utilization of technology is our shortcut to modernization.

The government has spent millions of dollars setting up IT parks and ICT centers in places such as Silicon Valley. This simply does not work. What we need to do, instead, is to provide the infrastructure and policies and let the private sector, all of your businesses, flourish. I propose to continue the infrastructure development and tax cuts that we had initiated during our previous term. I also propose to set up a venture fund to finance promising IT startups in Bangladesh.

If we make it, it will be because of the entrepreneurs in the private sector, not the government. Microsoft was built by a college dropout. Yahoo was built by two Stanford students in a trailer. Hewlett Packard was started in a garage. We have to find our own Bill Gates and make sure they have the tools to succeed.

Source: http://www.albd.org/compile/2006/it_joy.htm

</Article>

Friday, April 28, 2006

How Google works!!!

Here is an interesting article on how the search giant Google works. The information in the article is provided by Urs Hoelze, Google vice president of operations and vice president of engineering. I found their redundancy theory very interesting and practically useful indeed. They are smart people, actually they must be, otherwise how they could achieve what they achieved :-).

Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Corruption of I.C.T. Ministry

At last some news of corruption of I.C.T. Ministry is coming through. I heard of rampant corruption by our honorable minister Dr. Abdul Moyeen Khan many times before. But news about it has just began to come up. I just read a headline news about the corruption in the Daily Prothom Alo few days back but I lost the link. It said that loans were disbursed to mostly non-I.C.T. projects. Among them, there were few projects relating to goat farming. What an honest and honorable minister we have got! What is the value of his Ph.D. in English if he has no moral? Today, there is another news in the same newspaper regarding fund disbursement of this fiscal year. It said that ten months have passed but no money is released yet. It is feared that history will be repeated this time too as they will not go the 18 crore taka unspent. We may see few more healthy goats being cooked in honorable minister's parties next year!


Thursday, April 20, 2006

Another great site on programming articles

developer.* is an excellent site with great articles for programmers, software developers, software architects, quality assurance engineers, database designers, managers, researchers, professors - actually everyone involved in software development profession and computer science. The site offers articles, blogs and books. To start with, you can peruse the article What Is A Professional Programmer?.

Saturday, April 15, 2006

C++ Templates Turing Complete???!!!

Incredible!!! I did not believe it until I ran the program myself. I found that C++ templates are Turing Complete here. Reading the post, I immediately copied the code to my editor and tried to compile. I saw the CPU and memory usage going higher by time almost at an exponential rate. What a practical proof!!! Here is a paper which proves it theoretically. Here is the interesting piece of code, give it a try!

template<int Depth, int A, typename B>
struct K17 { static const int x =
K17 <Depth+1, 0, K17<Depth,A,B> >::x
+ K17 <Depth+1, 1, K17<Depth,A,B> >::x
+ K17 <Depth+1, 2, K17<Depth,A,B> >::x
+ K17 <Depth+1, 3, K17<Depth,A,B> >::x
+ K17 <Depth+1, 4, K17<Depth,A,B> >::x;
};
template <int A, typename B>
struct K17 <16,A,B> { static const int x = 1;
};
static const int z = K17 <0,0,int>::x;
int main(void) { }

What is the essential difference between Dynamic Programming and Recursion?

Digging out the net I found the answer here. I think it gives the appropriate answer in a pretty terse manner:

The essential difference is that Dynamic Programming keeps its intermediate results whereas recursion does not. This makes a huge difference to performance when a recursive function is called repeatedly with the same arguments. In fact Dynamic Programming is nothing more than recursion with the addition of a caching strategy.

Can it be true?

Russian scientists at Scientific Research Institute of Moscow claimed that they invented a device which can accelerate to infinity!!! Adding more to surprise, they told that the device contradicts Newton's third law of physics!!! There is a 99.99% chance that this is a hoax but what if it is true? :D. I immediately started dreaming about rambling from one star to another when I heard the news!!! :D:D:D

To translate the page to English, Babelfish of Altavista can be used.

Friday, April 07, 2006

Sun Solaris 10

I just installed Sun Solaris 10 in my PC. The desktop looks fine, specially the Java Desktop is a cool one. The browser's rendering is also good, I think it is better than Linux GTK browsers. As it is free, I think Linux lovers can give it a try. It supports a minimal set of commands/utilities like Unix. I got this Solaris CD from Eyeball. I remember some incidents relating Solaris, those were hilarious :D. I am sorry that I cannot disclose them here, my Eyeball-mates will easily recognize them :D.

Sunday, April 02, 2006

The most hilarious claim I have ever heard

I never heard something like this in my life. Are these people thinking rationally or being driven by fanatic thoughts? I do not know whether their claim of holocaust is true or not, may be my history knowledge is very poor, but I can feel their rage.

Tuesday, March 28, 2006

Do we have any shame???

In my previous post, I was apprehending something bad from the officials of Bangladesh Commonwealth contingent. Actually, I was just in a sarcastic mood. I never thought any more bad news is coming as I thought, after one bad event Bangladeshis will be cautious not to bring any more ignominy for the country. But my fellow brothers have beaten my imagination comprehensively. Now, a new question came to my mind, do we have any shame? Was it necessary to send that 40+ years old perverted shooter with pathetic skill to serve his sexual desire??

Thursday, March 23, 2006

What a shame!!!

Our boys have done it again. Actually, till now, only one athlete is missing from Commonwealth Games . Who knows how many more will do this? There are still some days left in the games. One more interesting fact, 13 officials have accompanied 16 sportsmen in the Bangladeshi contingent. Almost one official per sportsman, yet they failed to guard them properly :D. BTW, what those officials are there up to? Just for a pleasure trip and marketing or something else? I think we can hear an official fleeing the games village soon!!! :D:D:D

Sunday, March 19, 2006

Malaysian women are said to find Bangladeshi men irresistible

Here is an interesting story about Bangladeshi workers in Malaysia. It was very funny to me to know that Bangladeshi workers have Indian movie star looks which are irresistible to young Malaysian women. Bangladeshis are involved in many notorious acts such as eloping with married women who are simply enthralled by their charms and good looks.

Saturday, March 18, 2006

Got admission in UTD Ph.D. CS Program!!!

I just could not believe it when I first read the mail. I forwarded the mail to Mehedi, Arif and Rony immediately to double check the mail. When Arif replied only then I was sure that I did get Ph.D. admission in UTD. It is an awesome news for me!!! Thanks to Allah, the most benevolent, for giving me the wonderful opportunity. Though I have been said nothing about funding yet, I hope I shall get some positive news soon by the grace of Allah. After the refusal from EuMI, I got very disappointed. But if Allah wishes nothing can stop me, now I got the admission in UTD, this news brought back happiness to me and my family. No news could be better prior to visiting Rangamati next week. I think the tour will be more enjoyable now than before. I am forwarding the mail below:

"Felipe, Mary E" <mary.felipe@utdallas.edu> wrote:
Subject: UTD Ph.D. CS Program
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:42:01 -0600
From: "Felipe, Mary E" < mary.felipe@utdallas.edu>
 
Dear Mohammad Husain,
 
Congratulations on your acceptance to the Ph.D. Computer Science Program in The Erik Jonsson School of Engineering and Computer Science!  Your "official" acceptance must come in a letter from our university, and may contain a few conditions such as completion of prerequisite courses.  Nevertheless, I would like to "informally" welcome you and celebrate your educational opportunities at The University of Texas at Dallas. We are very proud and excited about our program, and I would like to encourage you to join us. UTD has admissions requirements which are at least as selective as the other top universities in the United States, providing you with an education of high scholastic standards.
 
In The Erik Jonsson School, we have 3 research institutes, 5 research centers, and over 48 research labs, with the number continually growing! This means that both our faculty and our graduate students have ample opportunities to pursue their areas of research interest. Furthermore, because of our location in the 2nd largest high-tech region in the United States, our industry ties are very strong. Because of this, we are able to work closely with industry to both understand current needs and to continue to push our research activities ahead of the "state-of-the art." Joint research with industry is also frequently undertaken. Your participation in our Graduate Program will certainly provide you with opportunities to participate in these activities.
 
The Erik Jonsson School also has the largest Industrial Practice Program in the state of Texas, and the sixth largest in the nation. This program is designed to allow our students to work with our local industry partners while still progressing towards a degree. The job placement rate for students who complete our voluntary co-op program is one of the best in the nation.
 
Lastly, I would like to remind you that the university has a large support network for new and continuing students. There is everything from tutoring to over one hundred and thirty student organizations to keep you as busy and involved as you would like to be!
 
You may be asking yourself "what are my next steps?" Your admission approval will now be processed by the UTD Admissions Office and your official UTD Admission letter will be generated within two weeks.  Your official letter will state whether you have been assigned prerequisite courses by the Graduate CS Admissions Committee.  Each student's file is carefully reviewed for admission and all deficiencies are noted for all four CS areas of study.  After attending Graduate CS Orientation, students choose their concentration.  Students are responsible for fulfilling only those prerequisites pertaining to their area of study.  You may apply for a waiver and/or transfer of prerequisite courses, after your enrollment at UTD, based on your previous academic records and the track of study you choose. 
                                                                                     
After that time, your application will be reviewed by the UTD International Student Services Office (ISSO) for I-20 review.  The UTD ISSO issues I-20s and handles immigration matters for UTD international students.  You will receive an email from the UTD ISS Office in approximately 3 weeks informing you of your I-20 status and any documents needed for I-20 issuance.  If you have not included the UTD financial affidavit and your current bank statement in your admission package, you must complete and fax these documents to the ISS Office at +1 (972) 883-4010 as soon as possible.  Only the UTD financial affidavit is accepted by the ISS Office.   For your convenience, I have attached this official affidavit.  If you are not able to open this attachment, you may access the form at:  
 
Please make certain that your full name is clearly printed on all documents.  Please verify the following information immediately as this will assist in the issuance of your I-20.  Please make any corrections necessary.
 
Full name:                     Husain, Mohammad Farhan
 
Please view the new international student information web page at http://www.utdallas.edu/student/international/  This site is very informative and helpful to our incoming international students.
 
I sincerely hope to see you on campus in the fall 2006 semester.  If you have questions or would like additional information, please contact Mary Felipe at mary.felipe@utdallas.edu
 
Warm Regards,
 
 
 
Dr. Kang Zhang
Professor, Assistant Department Head
The University of Texas at Dallas
Computer Science Department 

Wednesday, March 15, 2006

Windows Live Mail Beta

I just got invited to use Windows Live Mail Beta. I signed in with my Hotmail account. My first impression was that the interface is cool! The reading pane and drag-n-drop option are great. It is the first time I could use drag-n-drop and resizing in a browser. It offers 2 GB mail space too. Despite these exciting features, I doubt whether it can beat the growing popularity of Gmail or not. The notion of mail conversation introduced by Gmail is unique. I think Yahoo Mail's simplicity and reliability to filter spams and Gmail's conversation approach coupled with ever increasing mail box size will keep still them ahead of Live Mail.

Planning to go to Rangamati

Sharna and I have weekends and holiday from the 23rd to the 26th March. We are planning to visit Rangamati in those days. I bought the bus tickets already and reserved hotel room over phone. My sister will go with us from Dhaka. We will pick my sister-in-law from Chittagong and then go to Rangamati. We will explore the possibility to go to Bandarban from Rangamati. If there is a feasible way, we will also go there, otherwise we will spend a day in Chittagong city and return to Dhaka on the 26th.

Sunday, March 12, 2006

Visiting card

I just got visiting cards from my new employer. It is a very petty matter to mention here. But it reminds me the days in Eyeball Networks Inc. I remember that we asked our C.T.O. to provide us some visiting cards. It would cost less than 100 BDT per head which is an infinitesimal amount considering Eyeball's more than million dollar annual revenue. But we got refused. Believe me, this was the way we, the Bangladeshis in Dhaka, were treated there. We have many memorable moments in Eyeball but none of them has its any intentional contribution. We could have those moments only because there was no authority here. I am happy to get rid of that biased and unfair company, who treated us like slaves. Many times we took the initiative to make visiting cards ourselves, but none of them was successful. At last, I have got my visiting card, I am happy :-)

Saturday, March 11, 2006

First two day weekend

Today, I enjoyed my first ever two day weekend. I always knew that two day weekend refreshes mind completely. When you get back to work after a two day weekend, you will feel more invigorated. Your productivity will increase for sure. It is particularly true for IT professionals. Those who think that six working days are better than five working days are really unsmart, they fail to grasp the big picture. All the developed countries of the world have it. Recently, Bangladesh government also introduced it, though their main reason was to save fuel. Few years ago, government introduced it for the first time but later, a new government withdrew the decision. However, my previous employer Eyeball Networks used to understand the utility of two days weekend. But they refused to provide it to their Dhaka office whereas they used to enjoy three day weekend in one week every month and two day weekend in other weeks in Vancouver. It was mainly due to their exploitive and somewhat racist behaviour towards their Bangladeshi staffs at Dhaka. I am very happy in my current job because I don't have to face preposterous discrimination at least.

Friday, March 10, 2006

[BANGLA-IT] RE:Shaptahik 2000 article on Bangla Computing and Ekushey February- replies

In response to a request from one of my favourite bloggers, I am posting my conversation with Mr. Mustafa Jabbar here. Those who are interested please start reading from the first mail at the bottom, others please ignore this post as it is boring!!!

<Mail Conversation>

Dear Mr. Mustafa Jabbar,

Please find my reply below:

Dear Mr. Fahim

Please don't change my name. You have noticed from my signature that I work in Grameen Software, you should also have noticed that my name is not Fahim.

I am surprised that you have opted for a name to give a certificate for a
keyboard like Bijoy to be scientific. You meant that as my keyboard has got a
certificate from a person like Dr. Zafar Iqbal, than it is scientific.
Otherwise not? With all the respects to Dr Zafar Iqbal, I just like to mention
here that I designed the keyboard in 1988 and the keyboard has a very strong
science relating to Bangla Script and human interface of typing. The formula I
have used in my keyboard is from the scientific nature of Bangla language and
that has made it possible to create hundreds of characters with only two layers
of QWERTY Keyboard.

Well, who are the members of the BSTI committee DOES matter. A verdict of a committee formed by unqualified members is of no use. Otherwise why did you mention honorable Dr. Zafar Iqbal's name in the first place? He was not the head of the committee yet you mentioned him. I mentioned him for the very same reason. However, I am happy to know that your keyboard layout went through scientific process.

I am also surprised that serving in a business organisation you could not
realise that that science, which is not used by the people has very little
value for the human civilisations.

You are not right in this.  Not all of science are used by people, yet they have much value. There are many things in science which is not used by human for business purpose. The sole purpose of science is not to be used by people. Science is all about knowledge, be it used by people or not.

When we were in the University, we were doing lots of projects to have
marks-Perhaps Grameen Spftware can not afford to do that.

I completely failed to grasp the meaning and intent of this part. If you have meant that Grameen Software, which is one of the top software companies of Bangladesh, does not have lots of projects then you are very wrong. I do not have proper authorization to disclose business information of my company to a public forum. I can only say that we have lots of employees yet we have shortage of manpower to do all our projects. I am a proud employee of Grameen Software. However, I failed to understand that how Grameen Software is related to a mail in a public forum like bdresearchers, we were talking about Bijoy keyboard layout.

We as a business company have never adopted any gimmic ( I am sorry to hear a
nasty word like this) nor has got any patronage from anybody like you and has
been successful in getting the support of millions of people and we are happy
for that.

Please read my mail again to see that I did not use the word gimmick for you, I was just giving an general example.

In fact I do not care for anybody's certificate for my keyboard to be
scientific. In fact Dr Zafar Iqbals committe had no way but to accept  Bijoy as
no one has the ability to stop Bijoy under todays circumstances.

Your unstoppable sale of Bijoy is indeed a proof of your business success. For business success you only have to care your customers not any individual, no doubt about that. I like to know that why did you mention honorable Dr. Zafar Iqbal's name if you do not care him at all?

I have also understood that your comment on Muneer Keyboard was based on
assumption and there was no scientific basis on that.
When you make a comment, I wish you will justify that with proper logic.

I did not assume anything about Muneer keyboard layout. I only told that it was developed using scientific methods which is a fact.


As I have mentioned in my previous mail. I have given my view about why I have
not accepted Muneeer as a Computer Keybaord for Bangla.
Prof Munner Choudhury was my teacher and I respect him like my father. But I
have found that a typewriter keyboard is unable to make the most scientific
keyboard for a language like Bangla.

I like to say something here which I should have said in my earlier mail. I do not understand why we should consider the fact that this layout is for a computer. We should talk about the keyboard here as the term "Keyboard Layout" also suggests. A keyboard and a typewritter has the same use, that is TYPING. I think if a layout is ok for typewriter, it is ok for a keyboard too.


I shall again request you to read more on the subject and than make a comment.
Mustafa Jabbar

I welcome your suggestion to read more on the topic. I will certainly try to do so and provide some valuable input in this regard.

Thanks,

--

Mohammad Farhan Husain
Software Engineer
Grameen Software
Grameen IT Park
Grameen Bank Tower (11th floor)
Mirpur - 2, Dhaka - 1216
Bangladesh
Email: farhan.husain@grameensoftware.com
------------------------------------------------------------
Grameen Software (http://www.grameensoftware.com )

Quoting Farhan Husain < russoue@gmail.com>:

> Well, science and business are not the same. People are not aware of
> science, it is the designer who should follow scientific methods. It may be
> a marketting gimmick which makes a product very popular, science has nothing
> to do here. The success of your product is no doubt very good but it does
> not prove that your product is scientifically superior. However, as the BSTI
> committee, of which honorable Dr. Jaraf Iqbal was a member, approved your
> layout as a scientific one than that ends the debate. However, please don't
> confuse science and business.
>
> On 3/7/06, mjabbar@bangla.net < mjabbar@bangla.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Farhan,
> > Thanks again. For more details on Bijoy, Muneer and other keybaords,
> > please read
> > my book named Digital Bangla, published by Agamee Prokashonee. You might
> > also
> > see report of Keyboard Standardisation Committee of BCC headed by
> > Professor
> > Monsur Musa. Dr Jafar Iqbal and other scholars were in that committee and
> > I was
> > not there. The committe was formed to stope Bijoy to be the standard
> > keyboard by
> > BSTI. But the committe not only accepted Bijoy but also recognised as the
> > most
> > scientific one.
> > It is true that Muneer Keyboard was devloped on scientific considerations
> > for
> > typewriters. Please recognise that a Computer is not a typewriter and thus
> > it
> > has different science.
> > It would not be possible for Bijoy to have 97% user base without any
> > scientific
> > base. Do you think that is possible? All Bijoy user are fool?
> > We have developed it for Computer and not for typewriter. My Bijoy
> > keyboard will
> > not work on trypewriter and it has followed all the scientific rules (as
> > much as
> > that is practicable) of Bangla and thus has been so popular.
> > The Keybaord Standardisation Commiitte has expressedly said that Bijoy is
> > the
> > most widely used and scientifically designed keyboard. They have however
> > suuggested some changes to Bijoy and accepted 99.9% of Bijoy as a standard
> > keybaord.
> > How can you expect that in last eighteen years we sat idle and did not
> > even got
> > the feedback of the people and found if there is any fault in our design.
> > I should let you know a story. A company named saki Computers imported 500
> > Muneer and 5000 Bijoy Keybaords. Untill today the market has bought more
> > than a
> > million Bijioy keybaord but those 500 Muneer Keybaord could not be sold.
> > Where does your science stands?
> > Mustafa Jabbar
> >
> > Quoting Farhan Husain < russoue@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Well, you are right that ultimately users will choose layouts for them.
> > But
> > > I was telling that Munir layout is scientifically designed. Standard
> > > scientific procedures (e.g. frequency of occurrences) were followed
> > while
> > > designing the Munir layout. I don't know whether any standard procedure
> > was
> > > followed for Bijoy or not.
> > >
> > > On 3/7/06, mjabbar@bangla.net < mjabbar@bangla.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you feel that Muneer is good for you who has stopped you to use
> > that?
> > > > Dozens
> > > > of solutions are available. Even we provide solution for Muneer. You
> > might
> > > > be
> > > > happy to know that even we have developed the Muineer Keybaord by
> > > > introducing
> > > > link with the typewriter Keybaord.
> > > > Whether it is better than Bijoy or worst is the question to be decided
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > users in general. If 97% users are wrong and you are correct, its
> > fine.
> > > > If we look at the market response probably we shall be able to find
> > the
> > > > usage
> > > > percentage of Bijoy, Muneer or any other keyboard.
> > > > As a developer of KBangla Software I firmly believe that the user is
> > the
> > > > ultimate decision maker and every user has the right to choose or even
> > > > create
> > > > his/her own keyboard. I am ready to implement your own keyboard. Even
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > do yourself.
> > > > We have kept all the options for everybody and is willing to add even
> > many
> > > > new
> > > > keyboards. But it is the users who will finally say what they will
> > use.
> > > > Keyboard is a personnal choice and do not confuse it with encoding. We
> > > > need a
> > > > standaard encoding and some organisation might create their own
> > standard
> > > > opf
> > > > keybaord.
> > > > Our govt has already decided to use a standard keybaord. They might
> > tell
> > > > you
> > > > that if you want to have a govt job, you are to use that keyboard.
> > > > But a publisher might say that you will have to know Muneer or Bijoy
> > or
> > > > lEKHONI.
> > > > oN DEMAND FROM wEST bENGAL presently we are working on Geetanjali,
> > > > Satyajit
> > > > Keybaords of their choice.
> > > > Unfortunately those who are not users of Bangla in computers creates
> > more
> > > > confusion than the users.
> > > > I do not like to go into the debate of what is good, better and best.
> > But
> > > > definitely look at the market force and still continue to develop
> > those
> > > > technologies which are liked by people.
> > > > I do not agree that we have not proceeded much in Bangla Localisation.
> > > > Probably we forget to look at the Bangla Publications in paper (recent
> > Boi
> > > > Mela
> > > > is one plece where we should look), electronic and digital media.
> > > > I wish you will be practical and respect others choice of their own.
> > > > We might have some problems in using Bangla, but it has not stopped us
> > in
> > > > doing
> > > > things in Bangla.
> > > >
> > > > Mustafa Jabbar
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Farhan Husain < russoue@gmail.com >:
> > > >
> > > > > I think, we should reach a consensus to use Munir keyboard layout as
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > much more scientifically designed than any others, specially bijoy.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/6/06, mjabbar@bangla.net < mjabbar@bangla.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Dear All.
> > > > > > I have read the mail of Mr. Pramanik.
> > > > > > Though he has not mentioned my name in his article, even Mr.
> > Sharif
> > > > did
> > > > > > not mentioned my name too, it is clear to identify meself as the
> > > > target of
> > > > > > both the people.
> > > > > > I have replied to the article of 2000 and hope to be printed in
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > > week's 2000.
> > > > > > Please read that for better understanding.
> > > > > > However I should say something about Mr Pramaniks view. Regarding
> > > > Muneer
> > > > > > Keybaord, he and all of you should know that I iintroduced Muneer
> > > > Keybaord
> > > > > > in 1987 in Mac and in 1993 under Windows. Even today anyone can
> > find
> > > > Muneer
> > > > > > Keyboard with Bijoy Classic Pro. I do not feel that I am dead with
> > > > Muneer
> > > > > > Keybaord.
> > > > > > In fact 97% people of Bangladesh, 80% people of West Bengal use
> > Bijoy
> > > > > > Keyboard and no one has been compelled to use anyone.
> > > > > > Every user has the option to choose between Muneeer, Bijoy, Jatioy
> > and
> > > > > > National.
> > > > > > In fact if anyone has dropped Muneer Keyboard, it is the govt who
> > have
> > > > > > never considered to keep it in evaluation.
> > > > > > I have kept Muneer as one of the option and shall continue to do
> > that.
> > > > > > Regarding his other opinion about Bijoys to be the seventh wonder-
> > I
> > > > wish
> > > > > > people will decide my contribution and its not Pramanik alone who
> > will
> > > > give
> > > > > > verdict about my position in the ICT.
> > > > > > Thanks and regards
> > > > > > Mustafa Jabbar
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quoting "M. M Pramanik " < mmpramanik@yahoo.com>:
> > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > > I have come through all your mails regarding dishonesty with
> > Bangla
> > > > > > keyboard and font. I can also guess that person who is dead
> > against
> > > > any
> > > > > kind
> > > > > > of keyboard except his layout. I appreciate him for his keyboard
> > but
> > > > Munir
> > > > > > key board should have been given the respect which he enjoying. In
> > > > > > Bangladesh all Typists of Type machines (which now allmost
> > obsolete)
> > > > are
> > > > > > familiar with Munir key Board and when they started to use
> > computer,
> > > > they
> > > > > > had to use another keyboard. It was not justice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The man who is dead against Munir KB, once expressed himself as
> > the
> > > > > > father/pioneer of Computer in Bangladesh and he was also dead
> > against
> > > > all
> > > > > > academic people (BUET, BITs, DU, RU etc.) who studies Programming
> > or
> > > > basic
> > > > > > side of computing. That person advocated for multimedia education
> > but
> > > > he
> > > > > > could not realise that those academics or students were involved
> > in
> > > > > > education by which they could make his multimedia softwares. He
> > was
> > > > only
> > > > > end
> > > > > > user. He thought that his software (bangla) was the seventh wonder
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > world !!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > M. Pramanik
> > > > > > -----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Dear Mr.rahman,
> > > > > > I agree very much with you that as Bangali,we are more emotional
> > than
> > > > > > practical(myself not an exception).Thats why we have not been able
> > to
> > > > > > progress much on Bangla localization.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let us hope some one /group with merit  come forward in the feild.
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MMHAQ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Sayeed Rahman < banglait@gmail.com>* wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When Ekushey February comes every year we become so emotional
> > after
> > > > > > few days we forget everything.  But in reality we should talk
> > about
> > > > > > how much we achieved on Bangla Localization:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still we are confused about Standard Bangla key board layout
> > > > > > Not much work done by our Bangla Academy or Bangladesh Computer
> > > > Council
> > > > > > http://www.bccbd.org/ on this area BCC suppose to be is an
> > autonomous
> > > > body
> > > > > > under the Ministry of Science and Information & Communication
> > > > Technology,
> > > > > > Government of Bangladesh for  encouraging  and providing  support
> > for
> > > > ICT
> > > > > > related activities in  Bangladesh Recently Bangladesh Computer
> > Council
> > > > > came
> > > > > > up with Bangladesh Standard for Bengali Keyboard, Keyboard Bengali
> > > > Keyboard
> > > > > > Layout is these going to work?
> > > > > > Is this BCC truly an autonomous body? How it's Director post and
> > > > manpower
> > > > > > were selected on the basis of merit or connection?
> > > > > > Do we have any Standard Policy regarding our Govt web site design
> > > > layout?
> > > > > > How many BD Govt Web site are today in Bangla?
> > > > > > What our Private and Public Universities (CSE Dept) are doing for
> > > > Bangla
> > > > > > Localization?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope some one will answer my questions before the Ekushey February
> > > > emotion
> > > > > > fades away!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's good for Bangladesh is good for BANGLA IT. Serving yours
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > > > know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sayeed Rahman
> > > > > > Founder BANGLA IT
> > > > > > http://www.banglait.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------Shaptahik
> > > > > > 2000 article on Bangla Computing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.shaptahik2000.com/shonkha/2006/20060224/pr20060224.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Comments on the article from Shaptahik2000 group list
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for sharing with us a rather interesting yet thought
> > provoking
> > > > > > article written by Mr. Mohammad Reza Shareef in a recent issue of
> > the
> > > > > > Shaptahik on the controversy of Bangla key board layout in
> > Bangladesh.
> > > > > > The author elaborates the merits of Munir key board layout and
> > favors
> > > > > > its adoption over the others because of its ease of use and wide
> > > > spread
> > > > > > applications. The author also mentions about a class of dishonest
> > > > > > businessmen in Bangladesh especially points out throughout
> > > > > > the article about one particular dishonest who it seems is the
> > > > forefront
> > > > > > dead against the success of Munir key board and its font layout,
> > > > because he
> > > > > > himself developed and marketed one. Is it his
> > > > > > personal ego (I know the best; it is my way or high way!) or
> > > > Bangladeshi
> > > > > > corrupt politics? Those of us who live outside Bangladesh
> > > > > > and do not have any first hand knowledge of the Bangladeshi
> > politics
> > > > > > of Bangla fonts , Bangla key boards etc., it would be of very
> > interest
> > > > to
> > > > > > us to learn who is this dishonest businessman behind the dirty
> > > > Bangladeshi
> > > > > > politics of Bangla fonts and Bangla key boards. Can the author
> > > > identify
> > > > > him?
> > > > > > I have my suspicion!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fahim AHMED Ph.D.
> > > > > > Senior Research Scientist
> > > > > > Product Portfolio Milk Quality & Animal Health
> > > > > > DeLaval Manufacturing
> > > > > > 64153-1296 Kansas City, MO, USA
> > > > > > fahim.ahmed@delaval.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  [Disclaimer: BANGLA-IT Management is not liable for information
> > > > contained
> > > > > > in this message. The author takes full responsibility]
> > > > > > Post message: bangla_ict@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Visit http://www.banglait.org for more info
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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